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Posted By Topic: Electrical Contractor in NZ

BarryOH
Dec 04 2013 15:56

I am NZ sparky returning home from Australia after 25+ years.

I have held a Victorian Electrical Contractors License in the past which is not transferable.

I currently am a Registered Electrical Contractor in Western Australia.

Australian Electrical Contractor Licences us to complete a business training course of approximately 2 weeks duration and an Electrical Training Course of approximately 1 week. Examinations are held for both courses and we also have to complete assignments for both which include OHS, Cash Flow, Profit & Loss, Business analysis! Business Plan, Business Policy Statement etc and a Maximum Demand Project for a medium sized multiple occupancy installation.

When we have completed the training, assignments and passed the exams, we must produce current insurance policies and apply for the registration which then takes approx 28 days to be issued. No insurance, no license, fines if REC number is not on all advertising, signs etc.

I hold the Contractors License, and an unrestricted Electricians License.

My Electricians License is transferable because of the reciprocal licensing agreements.

What do I require to do to establish an Electrical Contracting Business in NZ on my return ?

Can I set all this up before I come home ?

I also hold Certificate 3 OHS and Senior First Aid Certificates.

Appreciate any advice you can provide.

Thanks


   

AlecK
Dec 04 2013 17:18

There are no requirements for setting up the business (other than paying your taxes and registering for GST).
The business training you\'ve done in Oz means you will be ahead of most small contractors here.

but you will have to pickup a Practising Licence to carry out prescribed electrical work, requiring recent attendance at simple refresher courses as specified by the Electrical Workers Registration Board.
   

HappyAs
Dec 04 2013 17:59

Be a little bit warned that the NZ electrical contracting market can at times be quite cost competitive.

Some would say the most common way to own a small electrical contracting company in NZ.

Is to start by owning a large electrical contracting company.

And just wait...
:-)
   

Apprentice
Dec 04 2013 19:18

Man, that whole business management cash flow stuff reminds me of the old plumbing exams. Not a thing to do with the job whatsoever. As far as I recall they got rid of it because everyone was all like \"wtf?, this is bullshit, if I wanted to be an accountant I would have been, let me be a tradesman and do work to specified regulations and standards of integrity workmanship\"

As AlecK said, pay your taxes and get your NZ practising license and you\'re set.
   

SteveH
Dec 04 2013 21:04

\"Man, that whole business management cash flow stuff reminds me of the old plumbing exams. Not a thing to do with the job whatsoever. As far as I recall they got rid of it because everyone was all like \"wtf?, this is bullshit, if I wanted to be an accountant I would have been, let me be a tradesman and do work to specified regulations and standards of integrity workmanship\"

As AlecK said, pay your taxes and get your NZ practising license and you\'re set.\"

Yep, set to go broke,and take your fellow \"independant tradesmen\" with you by a lack of business education and understanding of how to run a successful business- probably burn some suppliers and customers in doing that too.

If you are going to be self employed, or run a business for someone, you need to know all the things our returning sparky learn as part of gaining his Queensland Contractors permit
   

Apprentice
Dec 04 2013 21:46

SteveHo, The point is, it shouldn\'t be a requirement to know how to be an accountant or businessman to be recognised as a competent tradesman.
   

ElroyL
Dec 04 2013 22:18

That\'s fine if you are working FOR someone.
If you are working for yourself you need to have traits of both of the other professions, to keep IRD and liquidation at bay.
   

mralarms
Dec 04 2013 22:19

The contractor licence can have two people, one for business and one for the technical (electrical side).

As much as it was a pain, I do think the aussie system makes sense. It puts best practice and guarantees, in place before conduction business which in turn give the general public a sense of security.

It is too easy to just start in business and have NO idea of how to do good business practice and public liability is a big one!

It is hard to start there and I couldn\'t when I wanted too vs too easy to start here. Any business can fail anywhere, anytime - been there done that.
   

justsuppose
Dec 05 2013 23:17

anyone can set up a business here but lots struggle to keep it going.. every city in NZ is really a village.. hard to break into the personal friendship thing if your an outsider....
but good luck....
   

Apprentice
Dec 06 2013 18:24

If you need to have a personal friendship with someone to do business with them then you are doing it wrong.
   

justsuppose
Dec 06 2013 18:31

spoken like a true apprentice... ignorance is bliss... youll be suprised as you grow into manhood as to what %age of business is transacted through friendships
   

Apprentice
Dec 06 2013 18:36

Spoken like an arrogant old fart. You have no idea how old I am. There are a lot of adult apprentices in New Zealand. Speak of ignorance.
   

Apprentice
Dec 06 2013 18:43

Most business is conducted through word of mouth and best pricing through quotations. Competitive prices with reliable service and quality workmanship.

You probably confuse personal friendship with basic polite social etiquette. I doubt you give all your clients the same \"mates rates\" as you do your close friends and family.
   

justsuppose
Dec 06 2013 18:47

temper temper youngster...
   

Apprentice
Dec 06 2013 18:55

If my forum name was Registered Electrician, would you be posting such as you are? I don\'t think so.

   

justsuppose
Dec 06 2013 18:57

yep 100% never miss an opportunity

   

Apprentice
Dec 06 2013 19:09

Hey, we can all make judgements based on a silly forum name that ultimately doesn\'t say a thing, Just Suppose for example, I could just suppose that you have erectile disfunction and can\'t satisfy your wife so she went and shagged your brother and your best friend and now you are a shattered old man who hangs around the playground watching little kiddies like a perv and is now on a very special register.....but that would be making an assumption based on a silly little forum name which doesn\'t mean a thing, so I won\'t.
   

justsuppose
Dec 06 2013 19:55

short fuse eh... some apprentices just dont know when shut up.. your supervisors must love you. i know your mum does she told me when i was shaggin her last night...
   

Apprentice
Dec 06 2013 20:03

That\'d make you a necrophilliac.
   

justsuppose
Dec 06 2013 21:06

Hey, we can all make judgements based on a silly forum name that ultimately doesn\'t say a thing, Just Suppose for example, I could just suppose that lifelong apprentices like you have erectile disfunction and can\'t satisfy your boyfriend so he went and shagged your brother and your best friend and now you are a shattered tradeless man who hangs around the playground watching little kiddies like a perv and is now on a very special register.....but that would be making an assumption based on a silly little forum name which doesn\'t mean a thing, so I will
   

Apprentice
Dec 06 2013 21:16

Short fuse eh... some old pervs just don\'t know when to shut up.. your regular prostitutes must love you. I know your daughter does, she told me after I was shaggin\' her last night... :)
   

justsuppose
Dec 07 2013 02:07

see even apprentices can be taught to copy... i feel my work is done here....
sparkys 1 = 0 baby sparks
   

mralarms
Dec 07 2013 20:36

Once again you lot bitch, keep on the track of the original question that was asked.
   

SteveH
Dec 08 2013 10:59

\" keep on the track of the original question that was asked.\" MrAlarms

+1, another thread that supports the case for Moderators and Terms Of Service for internet forums.